Blog #6: Conventions of Academic Writing
Despite that Teresa Thonney’s academic journal, “Teaching the Conventions of Academic Discourse,” is written by a scholar for other scholars, it was easy to understand and agree with her points. It was an easier read than expected. Being an academic article, I assumed that there would be a sizable amount of advanced vocabulary, but I only had to search up a handful words. Although, it it was challenging a number of different senses.
I found it hard to read through
all of the provided examples. Thonney included at least one sample for every
point she made about her conventions of writing. Although its beneficial to the
reader to provide examples, I began thinking that she was listing too many. Because
I am not responsible for teaching any of this information to anyone, I felt as
through Thonney provided too many models for seemingly simple concepts; but I
am sure they would be useful for and appreciated by scholars who are looking to
pass on the knowledge to students. I also thought that Thonney’s writing style
was very dry—as expected of an academic journal intended for her fellow scholars.
The journal article was a difficult read in the sense that it was repetitive and
generally uncomplicated.
Other than those small details, I
mostly liked Thonney’s piece because I agreed with the points made in her introduction.
I strongly agreed with the statement that there is no “autonomous, generalizable
skill or set of skills called ‘writing’ that can be learned and then applied to
all genres or activities” (Russell qtd. in Thonney 347). I agree with this idea
because it did not seem as though my high school English teachers realized
this. Despite taking advanced placement English classes my junior and senior
year of high school, I never felt as though my writing skills improved. My
teachers would typically focus on one style of writing at a time and transition
to the next as if it were a completely new concept. My teachers would make us
write self-evaluations throughout the school year, explaining how our writing
skills improved and what we’d like to work on. But I could never think of how
my writing skills changed or if I even acquired any news skills that I didn’t have
in the past. I like how Thonney acknowledges that writing cannot be taught as a
set of guidelines to be applied in every situation, but approaches teaching
writing skills from a very broad perspective.
After
reading through Thonney’s conventions of academic writing, I realized that what
she is teaching varies from a number of the skills I was taught in high school.
In her second convention, described as “Academic Writes State the Value of
Their Work and Announce the Plan for Their Papers,” Thonney states that most “students
think the main claim in an academic argument must be an assertive, polemic
statement”. Instead, academic argumentative claims should be stated “mater-of-factly”
(351). My senior English teach taught us that being angry about a topic makes
for a good argument. She encouraged us to use “heated language” to express our opinions
in a forceful manner. Despite being taught this way, I think Thonney’s approach
makes for a better argument because it has a sense of professionalism and
composure that anger can overpower.
Overall,
I enjoyed reading Thonney’s academic journal article because I never felt as
though my writing skills improved throughout high school—making college writing
seem very intimidating. So hopefully Thonney’s general pieces of advice will help
me better my academic writing skills.
Great observations. I'm glad this wasn't a terrible read for you.
ReplyDeleteAlthough it is true that writing varies depending on the discipline you are writing in, Thonney has carefully gathered those conventions of academic writing that are similar so that teachers know what skills to focus on. Her point is that students can develop skills that can be applied throughout their classes. Teaching these equips students now and throughout their academic career.
And yeah. Anger works for SOME kinds of writing, but not generally for academic texts. Slow. Measured. Apparently objective. Like White and Hanson. Like Thonney.
I also agreed with you in the fact that it was only difficult to read because there was no attempt by Teresa to grab her audiences attention, which is understandable because it is an academic piece made for fellow scholars. In contrast though I thought her use for the 24 articles was great because it showed she had extensive evidence to prove that the argument she was making is 100% true. At the same time though it was tedious to read a piece of evidence every other sentence. I also hope that Thonney's pieces of advice will help me when writing college level essays.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with the difficulty in reading the article, and that college writing seems way more intimidating now! However, I found it an extremely helpful and almost satisfying read because a lot of her conventions went against what we've all learned in high school (like using first person and announcing a plan for the paper). Although that's uncomfortable and kind of scary, it made me feel like I have a little more freedom in my essays to get my points a cross the best way I can. I think this piece will help me check and re-check my writing in the future to make sure I'm living up to the academic writing standards, like you said in the end.
ReplyDeleteI also wrote about how the evidence and citation was difficult to get through as a reader, so I definitely feel you on that one. But in the end it was very valuable to us as students, even though it wasn't written for us. Kinda weird, but it felt like a look inside our teachers heads. Like she was giving us insight to what our teachers were trying to convey to us. Your personal experience with writing teachers who would change to different types of writing, yet expect you to know your improvement, makes a lot of sense to me. I haven't had this experience personally, but the way you describe this struggle helps me understand that sometimes you might not improve one skill-you might learn a new one. Great post :)
ReplyDeleteOverall, I also agree with you that Thonney's piece was helpful. The evidence was definitely dense, and a bit difficult to get through, but understandable. There were parts that were dry, but I think the general message and tips pulled from it were definitely worth the read.
ReplyDeleteI had a similar experience in high school as well when it comes to writing. Every teacher was trying to push the same thing, with these small variations, and I know that instead of genuinely gaining skill as a writer, I was rather simply just working for a grade. Personally, I would prefer my heart be in it, and to grow as a human being rather than experience temporary elation at the sight of an 'A' on an essay and then move on. I never felt like I picked up any skills, or really gained something that I look back on fondly. Instead, it was all about appealing to the teacher and producing something they liked, instead of me actually caring about the subject or what I was doing. I hope (and feel strongly) that college English will run deeper, and will allow me to pull away with experience in writing that makes me stronger and more eloquent in what I choose to discuss.
I agree with your point on how it felt like Thonney used too much evidence to explain relatively simple concepts. In general I feel like the use of too much evidence makes it harder to relate them all while tying it back to your main point. In other words, it's making it harder to communicate your argument to your audience, thus increasing the chance of losing their interest and making them confused. I can also relate to you english high school experience in terms of "changing your writing style. " I also felt like transitioning from writing a synthesis essay to a rhetorical analysis and to a position style essay was like trying to speak a different language.
ReplyDeleteAlthough the evidence was extensive and hard to keep my mind focused on the immensity of them, I also enjoyed (and was surprised) with how easy Thonney's article was to follow. The generalized skill set she described in her introduction was the most interesting to me. The idea that we have gone through twelve years of accumulating extensive strategies to improve our writing just to tear some of the strategies back down emphasized her argument, there is no way to generalize formal writing. All, different in one way or another, demands different skill sets to illustrate throughout our writing. I also feared college writing as I expected an entirely advanced level that I would not be prepared for coming out of high school. However, Thonney's tips to improving academic writing simplified how easy it is to express what you are trying to say without making it seems as though an entirely new wave of writing would have to be taught in order to receive a good grade on college formal writings.
ReplyDeleteI felt the same way toward Thonney's post. There certainly were many pieces of evidence; however, I think they really helped her in getting her point across. I think that the professors who read her piece will have a better idea of what she truly means, since they can examine her plethora of examples. After reading this piece, I became a little worried about college writing. I know college is way different and more difficult than high school, but thinking about the countless things that we must use to enhance our writing makes the process even more stressful. I'm glad that it was an overall easy read though, because my stress levels would definitely be even higher if I couldn't understand what Teresa Thonney meant.
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